I can't believe the toronto media coop would publish this.  The media coop had a real opportunity to grow from this protest but instead it is sticking to this narrow dogmatic defending the childish and anti-democratic black bloc bullshit.  what a shame. 

Did you ever take a moment to pause and think about why you were defending the polices' version of events.

As far as I am concerned - every black bloc person is a cop. 

This was much needed, those who still think agent provacotuers set this up, or the state set this all up may as well go find good paying agent jobs working for the state.
Been sick of hearing about this conspiracy for the last 2 days.
Thanks for keeping it real!

 I appreciate your opinion and evidence, but there is also evidence that contradicts yours. My family was at queen and peter and saw cops stand by while a handful of "black bloc" trashed things. 

There was also a contractor who saw police leave their cars for black bloc to torch. I have more video on my blog (http://ladythatlunches.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/police-state/).

I am not saying my evidence is more conclusive than yours, but this is why we need an inquiry to answer these questions. 

"Rebick uses the term “agent provocateur”, as others have. But do the cops really need to “provoke” the black bloc or others into burning cop cars or smashing corporate windows? You can't provoke a group to do what it is already doing and wants to be doing."

Yes, they do need to because 95% of protesters were peaceful and this is just a small group that could have easily been contained. In fact, protesters did a better job of containing them than the police, who were nowhere to be found during the riots, except taking photos and passively watching. 

I don't see very much logic in your article.

I believe it is Rebick who needs to provide proof of her theory, not the other way around! At any rate, the videos here clearly contradict her claims, which in the end amount to a conspiracy theory she's concocted, probably just to give her something to talk to the CBC about. They're the only one's who listen anymore...

The unions and the activists are not in control of the struggle anymore.

And neither are the police.

Another summit protest, another argument over the "black bloc".

Frankly, I'm tired of both "sides". Worrying about who may be a cop or unintentionally helping the cops in some sort of propaganda/crowd control secret plan, or whatever doesn't really matter.

"Black bloc" defenders try to paint the acts as some sort of romantic inspirational acts that will draw in the masses. Well, we've been doing this for over 10 years now, and even longer including those Europe, and it's not quite that simple. People are capable of rising up, rioting, etc. but seeing people they cannot relate to commit these acts is not what is needed to spark such an uprising. A direct connection is missing with the communities. We can't peacefully protest nor riot our way to a new world and a revolution. Protests are just part of the journey. 

Not saying those involved in the black bloc or those strongly opposing it are not involved in other projects outside of protests, but really this is what we should be discussing post-protest as opposed to the same ol' shit about whose protest "tactics" are better or harmful. 

Judy Rebick should be shamed from the Left for her commentary, written immediately after the protests.

In that commentary, she implies that the cops should have arrested the black bloc, and she begins the process of dividing good and bad protesters.

Her argument meshes with a lot of liberal and NGO bullshit now emerging -- that the militant protest "clouded the message," "excluded people," and so on.

There were multiple days of family friendly protest. There was clear and widely known organizing for civil disobedience and direct action after the main march on Saturday. No message was lost but militant mass resistance. No one was excluded.

If Judy wants to start a comradely conversation about how black bloc tactics may in some cases bring down repression on others, that's fine -- but even then there is a time and place for that conversation.

Instead, when protesters were dealing with mass arrests and corporate-police-government political attacks, she joined sides with the later. She barfed their line at the same time.

Judy Rebick should be shamed from the Left for her commentary, written immediately after the protests.

In that commentary, she implies that the cops should have arrested the black bloc, and she begins the process of dividing good and bad protesters.

Her argument meshes with a lot of liberal and NGO bullshit now emerging -- that the militant protest "clouded the message," "excluded people," and so on.

There were multiple days of family friendly protest. There was clear and widely known organizing for civil disobedience and direct action after the main march on Saturday. No message was lost but militant mass resistance. No one was excluded.

If Judy wants to start a comradely conversation about how black bloc tactics may in some cases bring down repression on others, that's fine -- but even then there is a time and place for that conversation.

Instead, when protesters were dealing with mass arrests and corporate-police-government political attacks, she joined sides with the later. She barfed their line at the same time.

Haha, I am so disappointed that this website would publish this. Way to stick with the mainstream media on a grand possibility..

The facts are that ANYONE could wear black, facial coverings or any other clothing and represent the Black Bloc. Even agent provocateurs.. people are still so trusting of our Police when the events from this weekend alone prove that they are only out to protect our government and themselves. Not the innocent bystanders, tourists and other protesters..

Leaving a cop car in the middle of an intersection (King & Yonge) that was supposed to be protected and had been protected all week except Saturday? Please.. they wouldn't even let protesters get as far as Queen during the week. This was a set up by the Police to encourage the supposed vandals to damage property so they would have a 'valid' reason to keep the public on their side and take away from the protestor's messages.

Look at the videos and some of the shoes that the supposed cruiser vandals were wearing.. the physique... crew cut haircuts... if you think the people responsible for the cruiser damage are not police officers or agents working on their behalf, I have little hope in the planet's future. People need to start thinking for themselves.

Read this guys account of what it was really like there!

http://kroaky108.blogspot.com/2010/06/how-i-got-arrested-and-abused-at-g...

telling of how ignorant people are. you obvioulsy know nothing about organizing (or perhaps think that your union membership is activism).

yes, cops infiltrate the movement. nobody is questioning that. but to say that ALL people who engage in black bloc tactics are cops is probably the stupidest thing i have ever heard. why would they do that? it's a simple question. what would be the point?

yes, some of the people trashing cars were probably cops. but not everyone was.

and there were definitly way more plain clothes cops infiltrating the "peaceful protests" than the bloc. here is a video to show it. just look at the number of plain clothed cops that end up behing the police line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XgEI5dCrE&feature=youtu.be

out of maybe 25-30 plainclothes undercover infiltrator cops. only 1 is MAYBE in blac bloc.

so, maybe people need to stop talking about things they know nothing about. and maybe people need to trust the people who are actually involved in organizing when we tell you that people who engage in blac bloc tactics are real activists who are tired of endless rallys that don't accomplish anything and therefore are taking action that directly confronts and damages the oppresive state.

Ladythatlunches: Alex Jones?! This junk is being propagated by that anti-immigrant, explosives-at-WTC wingnut? I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

kroaky108: "The Free Speech Zone was awesome" 'Nuff said.

"In the videos i saw alot of people in regular clothes jumping onto and messing with the cop cars, as well as throwing things at the police. How about we quit being divisive?"

Because breaking windows accomplishes nothing. If you want to take over an abandoned building to house people living in the streets, ill be there or support the action. If you make workshops educating people, ill be there or support. If you wanna set up camera squads so we can bust the cops doing what they do, ill be there or support. If you wanna keep doing the same shit we now know accomplishes nothing but help police drive through the point that activists are the enemy, i wont be there, or support. Yes, they will do that anyway, we dont need you to help them.

Who the hell takes this shit seriously:

"maybe people need to trust the people who are actually involved in organizing when we tell you that people who engage in blac bloc tactics are real activists who are tired of endless rallys that don't accomplish anything and therefore are taking action that directly confronts and damages the oppressive state."

Yeah, a couple of windows and spraypainted cars is really gonna dent their BILLION dollar weekend bonanza.  I would respect black bloc activists in Canada if they would be like the people i see protesting in South Korea. People who are tired of police brutality  and face them head on. But you dont get no respect from me when all you do is jump a few windows and then jump back into a crowd that didnt choose the tactics you did. Diversity of tactics is all well and fine, so why dont you do your tactic, and not force them unto others. People like Judy Rebick dont force you to write on rabble.ca so how about not hanging around people that didnt choose yours when there are protests? You chose this form of protest, fine. Man up to it (sorry i cant think of a gender friendly term right now) and dont hide in a crowd that didnt choose your form of protest.

And if they try that fascist/cop shit on me, trying to break my camera or take it away from me, trying to intimidate me into not filming, well, ill go out of my way to follow them around. Then they can beat me up like a cop would or whatever it is that they do. Seriously, fuck this shit.

"Rebick is trying to convince us that the Toronto cops allowed the black bloc to run wild"

Well, as someone who was down there. I believe this is 100% true.

My example is this. I live in the Yonge & College area. Sometime after 4pm I left my place to meet up with a friend. Police were already stationed on the corner. The black bloc had just come through. As I walked down College I ended up catching up with them smashing businesses and things like bus shelters along the way. Meanwhile they strolled right past police HQ on College where around 100 cops were stationed out front in full riot gear. The CIBC on the corner or College & Bay is not even half a block away from police HQ and they smashed the place up big time. The police never did a single thing. I don't understand it really.

If you can explain to me how that isn't letting the bloc to "run wild" I'd be amazed...

Hmmm... this article smells fishy to me... the arguments are not very cohesive... most folks I know who promote a diversity of tactics are very intelligent about their rationale... while this article has some logic to it, there are many points where it stops making sense. I wonder who exactly wrote this article and what their motivations are?

After reviewing the evidence, I believe there was agent provocateurs and that the police knew exactly what the black bloc was going to do, when and how. As much as I do acknowledge that diversity of tactics is important and that sometimes, a violent response to a violent action is the only way that people can survive in certain situations, it doesn't make sense to me to promote this particular tactic.

What is the point of defending a black bloc that was completely infiltrated by the police and where, the police ended up using the black bloc for their own benefit? This action no longer becomes an action or a tactic because it has been appropriated by a billion dollar police force. The black bloc became a tool for the police to indiscriminately search and detail hundreds. How is this an anti-capitalist strategy? Again, I do believe that a diversity of tactics are necessary for socal change to happen, but in this particular case, the police need to be held accountable for their actions (before, during and after the 'black bloc' actions).

It's a silly debate - where they cops or not? The reality is what ever the intention of the black bloc they do the work of the state.
The events at the G20 demonstration on Saturday have provoked a series of responses already. This article is not meant to review the events of the day itself but to look at the questions raised by the demonstrations.
Suffice to say the reaction of the police in arresting, detaining, and brutalizing nearly 1,000 people in the largest mass arrests in Canadian history exposes the serious attacks on civil liberties we face.
On Friday before the demonstration I was having a beer with a comrade in Halifax and of course discussion turned to the G20, we both agreed that this would be the perfect demonstration to go off without any property damage. If at the end of the day tens of thousands marched, thousands did sit-ins by the fence but the tactic of smashing windows was not employed then the summit would be a defeat for Harper.
We drew this analysis based on the fact that every where you went there was anger at the billion dollar price tag for security. At a time when thousands are struggling to make ends meet and see the cost of the Summits as exorbitant. Many, consciously or not, recognize that this money is being spent to the architects of the crisis; protecting those who gave billions to the bank while leaving workers and the poor to pay for it. Furthermore, in the lead-up, there was a growing polarisation with many being angry or frustrated with Harper’s attacks on civil liberties, on women’s rights, on the climate, on the economy, and more.
To have had a day of mass demonstrations and militant but non- violent action would have left Harper with egg on his face and given more confidence to those want to find ways to challenge Harper and the market.
Instead, the day went just like clock work—much like other summits. There’s a mass demonstration. A layer of people do a split from that march and then some engage in expressing their rage against the system by smashing windows and other acts. Given the world we live in, it is surprising that more of this doesn’t happen more often.
In response, the police hold back until the main march disperses. They wait for some damage to be done, and then they go on the offensive. They round-up and brutalize everyone left on the streets, including passers-by, peaceful protesters and those engaged in property damage. In Seattle, Quebec, Genoa, etc. this script has played out over and over again. The police wait until the mass organisations leave, then go after the rest. This strategy suggests that the police and the state are keenly aware of who they want—and don’t want—to provoke.
Within this the “black bloc” and their supporters utilise the larger rally and split marches to launch attacks on property and the police. Usually the police wait long enough for damage to be created before they respond. In these situations it is one of the few times the police wait to crack down.
Then, when the cops attack, the “bloc” usually retreats and tries to merge with others. In Genoa, the black bloc ran through a group of nuns engaged in a sit-in which resulted in the police attacking the nuns. In New York City, at a demonstration against WEF, the black bloc ended up running from the police and trampling down women Steelworkers from Toronto, who were then attacked by the police as the black bloc hid behind the Steelworkers.
Then the media and police trot out the usual line “We are ok with protests, but a small minority of criminals can’t be tolerated”. Those innocents that were arrested were an unfortunate by-product of protecting the city and its inhabitants. The police and politicians then justify the violence against protestors as necessary to stop any further violence.
In the process, hundreds get arrested while the media spends the next several days reducing the estimated numbers of demonstrators, erasing on-site reports of police brutality, critiquing the police as being too passive. Then the police say they weren’t able to protect property at the start because they were committed to facilitating the peaceful protest. Afterward they “did everything possible to restore order”. Throughout all this, stories begin to emerge about undercover officers mingling with crowd, engaging in and trying to stir up “action”. Eventually a handful get charged with some serious offences and the majority arrested get released with few or no charges.
Despite the media hype there was nothing new about the events in Toronto. The question for militants is: what are the lessons? How do we interpret events and what do they mean for the left?
To answer, we need to look at what the mobilisations can achieve and why they are important. This is the critical starting point. Since the rise of the anti-globalisation movement, this has been a point of debate.
The mobilisations around summits are important because they provide an opportunity to mobilise people beyond the ranks of those already active. It is more possible because the media builds the events far beyond the reach of the left. The fact that the summits raise a broad set of issues, mean that they unite in opposition broad sets of movements. The demonstrations that result can often be greater than the sum of the parts of movements. They unite various movements – labour and environment for example. They provide an opportunity to bring wider layers into the.movement.
Some have argued that these demonstrations are pointless one-off events and that those who go to them are “summit-hoppers”. Strangely these critiques are often raised by people who themselves go to the events.
But this misses the point that while the mobilisations are one-off’s they are important in the sense that they pull struggles together and allow those not plugged into activism to find a space to join the movement. Secondly the protests show to millions of others that there is mass opposition to the system.
Of course the idea that the protests themselves will change the agenda of the rulers is mistaken and naive. But the more important point of the protests is to galvanise and mobilise opposition to the system. For the left, the demonstrations offer a crucial opportunity to grow and sink deeper roots in new areas. These mobilizations also help maintain momentum and break down barriers between struggles that often go on in their own silos. In short, these protests forge new bonds of solidarity.
So it is important to mobilise against these summits, not because we can change the agenda or that capitalism will grind to a halt if the summit is shut down. Some thought because of the collapse of the Doha round or the inability to get a deal at the FTAA Québec City round, that capitalism would be forced into a retreat. But the reality is that these summits are attempts to overcome divisions between various ruling classes in various nation states. What they can’t get through global agreements, they will try through regional agreements. What isn’t accomplished regionally is taken up bi-laterally. Basically, summits are where the world’s largest economies jockey with each other for a better deal for their own ruling classes.
This doesn’t mean we can’t wrestle reforms from these leaders, and without the demonstrations it would be even harder to win reforms or prevent even more damaging policies from being implemented. Even NGO’s who aren’t committed to the revolutionary overthrow of capitalism, understand that mobilising is vital to back their call for reforms.
In this context, the object of mobilising for the summits should be to try and take advantage of the moment presented to broaden and deepen the left and build the movements.
This is the objective from which our tactics flow. It is not the summit itself that matters but the ability to draw larger numbers onto the streets and into action. It offers the potential to increase people’s confidence and consciousness.
To establish tactics before determining the larger strategic objectives, raises tactics to a point of principle and robs the working class of the tactical flexibility that will maximize success. It is juvenile and creates the quixotic adventures we saw on June 26.
So what about “diversity of tactics” and the black bloc?
It should be clear that the actions of the black bloc reflect their politics. The actions in Toronto mirror those tactics used elsewhere. The tactics and politics regardless of their intent are inherently elitist and counter-productive. In fact they mirror the critique of reformism many on the left have. The NDP says vote for us and we’ll do it for you, the black bloc says in essence the same thing – we will make the revolution for you.
At best the tactics of the black bloc are based on a mistaken idea that the attacks on property and the police will create a spark to encourage others to resist capitalism, at worst they are based on a rampant individualistic sense of rage and entitlement to express that rage regardless of the consequences to others. The anti-authoritarian politic they follow is imposed on others. Very rarely will you see a black bloc call its own rally, instead the tactic is to play hide and seek with the police under the cover of larger mobilisations.
Further as has been noted in many cases, the tactics and politics of the black bloc and some anarchists and some others on the left, leave them prone to being manipulated by the state. In almost every summit protest, police and others (in Genoa it was also fascists), infiltrate or form their own blocs to engage in provocations. The politics of secrecy and unannounced plans and a quasi-military (amateur at best) approach to demonstrations leave the door open to this.
The tactics also open the door for the justification of further police repression. This has been debated before, with some arguing that the state doesn’t need justification for repression. The idea that the state doesn’t need justification for further repression exposes the total lack of understanding of both the state and the consciousness of ordinary people.
If the state didn’t need justification for repression, then we would all be in jail. Capitalism isn’t a democratic system, but needs the facade of political rights to maintain some buy-in about how free we all are. If the state didn’t need justification for repression, then we accept that people are just automatons who do what they are told.
But the reality is that most people oppose police brutality and most people believe we are living in a democracy. Therefore when the police go on a rampage, they have to have an excuse. It is highly naive to think that the police and the state won’t and don’t need a justification to repress people. If they didn’t we wouldn’t have a war on drugs – it would have just been a war on the poor.
Some argue that we have to support some of these tactics because they are “radical”. But what is indeed “radical”. Let us put aside the notion of “economic disruption” caused by a few burning cop cars and broken windows, as some use this to justify so called militant actions. The reality is the Tamil community created much more economic disruption with their non-violent occupation of the Gardiner Expressway in Toronto. Further the workers in Sudbury valiantly fighting Vale Inco are doing much more to disrupt the economy than a thousands black bloc actions ever could.
The tactics of the black bloc make it clear that for them, it is more important to smash windows than to try and march with thousands of workers and engage them in arguments about how to move struggles forward or that the problem is capitalism.
So how radical is it to trash a few windows? It depends on what one means by radical. Radical is about workers gaining confidence and consciousness to fight back, not just at work, but in solidarity with others. Radical is about developing a sense of mass power, organising based on moving others into struggle, winning others to challenge the power in their workplace or community collectively, beyond the individualisation of our society. Radical is about going to the roots of the system—not trashing its symbols.
So it is much more radical organising a Starbucks, or winning co-workers to fight homophobia, or defending women’s rights than it is smashing a window.
When the black bloc does its thing, does it move struggles forward or backward? Does it in the eyes of those questioning the system, or moving into struggle, or thinking that something is wrong, radicalise them and give them confidence?
The answer is that outside of a small minority, these actions at best can inspire passive support from those who do not like police. But the majority have no confidence to engage in these actions themselves or agree with them. Instead of giving confidence, the tactics generally produce confusion and play into the hands of the state that would prefer it if no one ever protested. They allow the state to justify its repression and expenditures. In essence outside of an already radicalised minority they don’t leave anyone with a deeper sense of confidence about the ability to fight capitalism. Instead at best they leave the impression that the fight against capitalism can only be carried out by a heroic minority at worst they leave people worrying about going to demonstrations. The tactic is far from radical because it does nothing to challenge capitalism in any way; it does nothing to instil confidence in others to resist.
The debate shouldn’t be about violence, per se, but about tactics and strategy. Of course we defend the right of workers and oppressed communities to self-defence. The response from the left to the riots in Toronto after Rodney King is a good example: many defended the justified outrage at both the racism of the justice system and the beating of Rodney King. It was a justifiable rage against a system of racism, but it also wasn’t a strategy to defeat racism.
The black bloc however, isn’t an oppressed community resisting oppression and defending itself.
Those on the left who see the problems with the black bloc and the cover given to them by those who elevate “diversity of tactics” to a principle need to organise coherent responses to this.
We need to join the battle for interpretation without getting distracted by blanket pronouncements of “pro” this or “anti” that. We need to focus on strategy and the tactics that flow from it. This will allow us to regroup those activists who see the centrality of the working class as the key to social change, who recognize that intended or not, “diversity of tactics” is not radical but a cover for self-aggrandisement by some sections who have no faith in the self-activity of the working class.
The need for a bigger stronger socialist movement in Toronto couldn’t be greater. But the role of socialists isn’t to gingerly tail those who support “diversity of tactics”, but to politically debate and expose the bankruptcy of those ideas for moving struggles forward. And it goes without saying that while we do that, we must also be defending those arrested, exposing the brutality of the police and patiently explaining to co-workers and neighbours what really happened and why people protested.
We need this clarity to avoid the sort of splits that occurred after Québec City and after 9/11. We need this clarity and upfront politics to win those pulled by the anger at the system and its barbarism to a more effective—if less sexy—strategy, based on building a mass struggle against capitalism that can pull the system up by its roots.